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Grace Amelia Doe

1916 - 2007
LocationReigate, Surrey
Age91 years
Date of Birth11/03/1916
Date of Death22/07/2007
Visitors16,216 since 31/08/2007
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Grace Doe - Died on 22 July 2007, aged 91. Born on 11 March 1916 in Southwark, London.

In memory of a fantastic lady - Wife to Francis (who sadly passed away in 1984 - also on this site
http://francis-doe.gonetoosoon.co.uk), Mum to Leslie and John, Nan to Melanie and Emma. Dearly
missed, and forever in our hearts. May you rest in peace.

♰ ♥ ♰ ♥ ♰ ♥ ♰ ♥ ♰ ♥ ♰

♥♥♥ Legacy of Love ♥♥♥

A wife, a mother, a grandma too,
This is the legacy we have from you.
You taught us love and how to fight,
You gave us strength, you gave us might.
A stronger person would be hard to find,
And in your heart, you were always kind.
You fought for us all in one way or another,
Not just as a wife not just as a mother.
For all of us you gave your best,
Now the time has come for you to rest.
So go in peace, you've earned your sleep,
Your love in our hearts, we'll eternally keep.

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Loved her long country walks, gardening and allotment- such great memories never to be forgotten.

Strong-willed and such a fighter - survived WW2, stomach cancer at 84 years old (an 8 hour operation
and had no stomach but still lived another 7 years!), a stroke and tragic deaths of family and
friends, but still kept smiling. Sadly taken from us by cruel events carried out by our very own
NHS, which we will now fight for you - you deserve it.

GRACE, IN HER OWN WORDS. (These stories
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/stories/77/a4457577.shtml A LONDONER'S WAR DIARY
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/stories/85/a5962485.shtml WORKING FOR THE WAR EFFORT
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/stories/33/a5717333.shtml TOM WILLIAMS GOES TO WAR
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/stories/11/a5723011.shtml VICTORY CELEBRATIONS
and more can be found on BBC WW2 Peoples War website)

My name is Grace Doe. I was born Grace Seager in 1916 in Victoria Place, Southwark, South London. It
was a little court we lived in there, in Union Street. There were eight houses in our court and a
church hall where they had nativity plays every Christmas. We weren't far from the Royal Mail
Sorting Office in Orange Street. I went to Orange Street School.

We lived at No. 2 and next door, at No. 1, lived Mrs Mackman and her two daughters, Dolly and Polly.
I remember Beatty Mackman especially because it was her and my brother George who took me down the
New Kent Road to get my photo done when I was only five.

I remember there was a High Church, All Hallows, in Pepper Street. There were some nuns, a Sister
Grace and a Sister Ethel, who lived up one end of the court who used to take us on outings. I was
named after Sister Grace and one of my sister's after Sister Ethel. They had two servants called
Rose and May.

We were moved out of Victoria Place because of the Thames continually bursting its banks and
flooding us out. The water would come lapping into our Court, but Upper Thames Street caught it
worse than we did.They moved us out after my mum died just before the war.

Before the war, I used to make cases at a box maker’s. We made boxes for Harrod’s as well and
they would be delivered on a handbarrow. You wouldn’t see that today, not in all that traffic!
After that, I worked at Simon’s, an Eel and Pie shop, and then I was a lift attendant in offices
in High Holborn. Next door to us was the Hacks Cough Sweets factory.

War broke out and I continued in that job for a while. Opposite us was the telephone exchange. We
knew whenever there was going to be a raid coming because they would draw their blinds. Being the
exchange, they would get the information before anyone else. It was then that I started work at
Fortiphone’s.

WORKING FOR THE WAR EFFORT

These are a few of my recollections of the war and what it was like working in a factory for the war
effort at the time. I worked at Fortiphones, soldering for the tanks. Fortiphones was a huge
factory. It was just by the Gaumont cinema in Peckham. They made all sorts of electronic boards and
equipment. We worked up on the second floor. I don’t know what else they were making on the other
floors, but we were making and assembling radio equipment for the tanks.

We all used to cycle or walk to work, or get the bus or tram. We didn’t have cars like they do
today. The trams going down Dogkennel Hill by where we lived would really have a job. The hill was
so steep, they had to keep the brakes on all the way going down because the tram would fair run away
with itself. I remember once I heard the tram crashed at the bottom because of that. It was lucky
there was a police box on top of the hill. I think someone used it to phone for help.

The trams did what they called a Workman's Ticket. It was really cheap. You could go all the way to
Southwark return for just fourpence. I always walked to work, though. I'd cut through all the
back-doubles. It would be quicker and it didn't cost anything. Money was always tight.

We would get into work and go straight upstairs to our benches and start work. We didn’t have to
clock in or anything. We started at nine in the morning and finished at six. I don’t remember
exactly how much the pay was but I think it must have been not more than £2, maybe only 37/6 a week
or something like that. Mind you, that was a lot of money in those days.

There were lots of benches, I remember. They were big, long benches with four people seated either
side, eight people to each bench. They were our workstations. We each had our own place to sit. We
sat at upright, wooden chairs, not stools. All our tools, soldering iron and so on, were set out on
the benches.

We weren’t provided with overalls or anything like that. I used to wear the overall I wore at
Simon’s. It was my own overall. I had dyed it red. It was really smart. I wouldn’t take it home
and bring it to work each day; I’d just leave it over the back of my chair at my workstation. It
was quite safe to leave them overnight on the back of the chair.

I had these bits of metal with holes in. I had to put the wires through the holes. You had to twist
the bare wire round, and then solder it on to the connection. I had bundles of wires and I had wrap
them round all tidy. I had to solder the black wire to the coil. You had to put the yellow flux on
and then burn the wires on with the soldering iron. The smell would go right up my nose! It wasn't
very pleasant, as you can imagine, especially as there were so many of us all soldering.

There was a roll of black wire I remember. The wires were cut for you and you had to make sure you
did all the connections securely. Our lads’ lives depended on it. They were leads about 18 inches
long. There was one woman there; all her wires were cut short. She kept talking away when she should
have been paying attention to what she was doing. She’d stripped the casing to bare the wire and
stripped most of the wire off, too! I had to keep passing her work back. I told Cath, one of our
foreladies. There were two foreladies. 'Look at this,' I said. 'This isn't right.' I couldn’t let
that go on and I had to tell her.

Sometimes, there would be a daylight raid. The sirens would sound and we would hear the planes and
we'd go up on the roof in our lunch break. We'd watch them fighting overhead! Can you just imagine?
There would be bombs dropping but, all through the war, the factory was never damaged. I was really
excited by it all. I don't know why I wasn't frightened. I should have been, I suppose. I just
wasn't. They were up there shooting at each other. I never thought I'd see such a sight. The
spitfires were simply marvelous aeroplanes! They were climbing and diving. I'd seen the big
Zeppelins. I'd seen one over Hastings. But I never thought I'd see all this.

They would bring a cup of tea round to us but I don't recall there was a canteen or anything. We
just kept working. I'd go home to lunch. I had to prepare my dad a dinner, or just cook one I'd
already prepared the previous evening. I'd maybe make some soup or stew for quickness with some
Beefex or some Foster Clarks cubes. I loved to put the wireless on and listen to the Grand Commodore
Orchestra, on the Light Programme I think it was, at 1 o'clock.

My mum had died in 1937 with cancer and he was on his own poor devil. It took 15 minutes to get
there and back. I don't know how I did it all in the time I had. I had to give him his wash down in
the tub each week as well. He just couldn't manage on his own. I was only 5 stone, but I was wiry.
The smallest of the bunch my mum called me. She said she could have put me in a pint pot!

At the end of the day's shift, they'd have volunteers to do fire watching. We'd take it in turns.
There'd be three of us. We'd walk about the factory floor keeping watch in case an incendiary came
down. It would be our job to raise the alarm and get it tackled before it could take a hold. We'd
stay about three hours on patrol, and then the two watchmen would come and lock up.

Night after night of the blackout we had. We'd take a flask down the shelter and sit and chat down
there. Every night at nine o'clock, though, I used to go and stand at the shelter and look out. I
was the only one looking out like that. I must say I felt quite brave, although, you might think me
rather foolish. The searchlights and the flashes of the anti-aircraft guns lit up the sky. It was
all a sight.

The guns were up on Dogkennel Hill not so far away from our ground floor Council flat. It was a
three-story block we lived in. Even inside the shelter, you could feel the 'thump, thump' of the
guns vibrating. I think the Nazi planes were trying to hit the railway line. It was over that way.
Their bombs were falling short and coming our way instead. We got bombed out. The curtains fell down
with the blast. There were shouts of 'Turn out those lights!' and the Wardens got us all down the
shelter quick.

It was a bad night, a very bad night. And the shelter next to ours suffered 37 people killed. All of
them dead, no survivors. It was a direct hit. They were brick shelters, solid, but nothing's going
to stand up to that. And it didn't. It could as easily have been us. Why we survived and not them
I'll never know. It's all just chance in the end, in the wrong place at the wrong time.

The Council were very good. They got all our stuff together, dried it out, what could be salvaged,
furniture and all, and put it into storage for us. I went round the flat to see if there was
anything left. The flats were badly damaged. The walls were still mostly standing, but you
couldn’t live there. It was unsafe. There was our big old radio still there. I salvaged that,
although a lot of the valves were broken inside.

We were really worried, though, because dad had put his pension money he got from when he retired
from Reynolds into his mattress! All our stuff had been waterlogged from the fire engines and the
burst water mains. I went and checked it all to see what had survived. We thought the mattress might
have got destroyed in the bombing. Worse, if it had survived in one piece, we thought the money
would be gone or all sodden and useless. Miraculously, it was all still there in one piece and had
dried out alright!

The Council had done us proud. I don't know how we would have managed to cope with it all on our
own. Well, we wouldn't, not really. It's as well everyone pulls together at times like that.
Everyone feels for everyone else. We hunted around and found a flat in Grovehill Road with a Mrs. Mc
Neill. The rent was 16 shillings and 6 pence a week. There was a pub on the corner, but I don't
remember its name. My old dad, Gilbert Seager, a retired compositor with Reynolds press, used to
drink in there with his pal, Bert Rodgers, who lived nearby.

When my dad was working at Reynolds, he used to come home after his long shift and give me the
Sunday edition fresh off the press. Reynolds was a Sunday paper. I used to walk proudly out with it
and I'd hear people whisper, 'How'd she get the Sunday paper, it's not out yet!' Sometimes, they'd
ask me direct, out loud, and I'd tell them my dad worked at the paper. That made me feel really
proud as you can imagine.

Of course, I had to cope with all this going on and get into work the next day on top of it all.
Well, we all did; I wasn’t the only one in that situation. Everyone had to just get on with it and
cope. I worked at Fortiphones all through the war. I showed my boyfriend, Frank Doe, around the
factory when he was home on compassionate leave in 1944. That was when we met and I had to show him
what we were doing on the home front for the war effort. I was proud of my work. And I was proud of
him.

Towards the end of the war, we had the buzz bombs. They used to make a noise as they went over. You
knew you were safe as long as you could hear them. It was when they stopped you had to worry. It all
went silent and everyone held their breath. It was scary. It was a scary time for us all. And I
don't think I'll ever forget it, even after all these years, even though so much seems so far off
and distant now.
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Nan, you certainly had some stories to tell, and I know your favourite was about your Whipping Top
and the scooter that you made yourself - you were a "tom-boy" as you said, and very proud of it.
There's nothing I wouldn't give to hear you tell those stories one last time. We love you and miss
you so much.

*** BELOW, A POEM THAT IS VERY FITTING ***
TO THOSE NURSES AND DOCTORS RESPONSIBLE FOR MY NAN'S LAST FEW DAYS OF "CARE" - SHE WAS A MUM, WIFE
AND NAN AND YOU HAD NO RIGHT TO TREAT HER LIKE YOU DID. SHAME ON YOU!!!

♥ An Old Lady's Poem ♥
What do you see, nurses, what do you see?
What are you thinking when you're looking at me?
A crabby old woman, not very wise,
Uncertain of habit, with faraway eyes?
Who dribbles her food and makes no reply
When you say in a loud voice, "I do wish you'd try!"
Who seems not to notice the things that you do,
And forever is losing a stocking or shoe.....
Who, resisting or not, lets you do as you will,
With bathing and feeding, the long day to fill....
Is that what you're thinking? Is that what you see?
Then open your eyes, nurse; you're not looking at me.
I'll tell you who I am as I sit here so still,
As I do at your bidding, as I eat at your swill.
I'm a small child of ten...with a father and mother,
Brothers and sisters, who I ! love one another.
A young girl of sixteen, with wings on her feet,
Dreaming that soon now a lover she'll meet.
A bride soon at twenty -- my heart gives a leap,
Remembering the vows that I promised to keep.
At twenty-five now, I have young of my own,
Who need me to guide and a secure happy home.
A woman of thirty, my young now grown fast,
Bound to each other with ties that should last.
At forty, my young sons have grown and are gone,
But my man's beside me to see I don't mourn.
At fifty once more, babies play round my knee,
Again we know children, my loved one and me.
Dark days are upon me, my husband is dead;
I look at the future, I shudder with dread.
For my young are all rearing young of their own,
And I think of the years and the love that I've known.
I'm now an old woman...and nature is cruel;
'Tis jest to make old age look like a fool.
The body, it crumbles, grace and vigor depart,
There is now a stone where I once had a heart.
But inside this old carcass a young girl still dwells,
And now and again my battered heart swells.
I remember the joys, I remember the pain,
And I'm loving and living life over again.
I think of the years ....all too few, gone too fast,
And accept the stark fact that nothing can last.
So open your eyes, nurses, open and see, ...
Not a crabby old woman; look closer...see ME!!

--Anonymous

Music on Grace's memorial:

In Apple Blossom Time – Connie Francis
Stranger on the Shore – Acker Bilk
Pretty Amazing Grace – Neil Diamond
Amazing Grace – Irish Celtic Bagpipes
Tears in Heaven – Eric Clapton
How to Save a Life – The Fray
Time in a Bottle – Jim Croce
In Apple Blossom Time – Vera Lynn
One More Day – Diamond Rio


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Its so hard when we lose a loved one,iv just recently lost my Dad,and the pain i am holdin is so hard 2 describe,but it gives me great comfort to know that there are some kind people around who like to share their kind thoughts and words,and i would like to share mine with all those who knew Grace.May her love still shine upon you all,as she watches over you and guides you along through life,and may you keep all your memories of her close to your hearts,because that is where she will always be...close to your hearts.Gone but not forgotten Grace.say hi to my Dad for me Grace,and may god bless you all x x xx

Mhairi Wood Hectors Heartbroken Daughter (someone who understands) January 25, 2008

Melanie,
thank you for lighting a candle for my dad, such a lovely thing to do, I send lots of love to you and your family, god bless and look after each other
x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x

Lorraine Amp Barry January 23, 2008

Melanie, thank you for the kind tribute on mums site, and the lovely poem. It really was appreciated, god bless you and your family XX

Shirley Morley (passerby) January 23, 2008

Thank You

Hi Melanie,

Thank you ever so much for your kind words on my Grandad's site it really touched me and I loved the poem too.

Your Nan and my Grandad will be up the stairs on the biggest white fluffiest cloud sharing there WW2 stories and having a right good laugh now about it all :)

He was my rock and without him I am truelly lost just lucky I have my 4 kiddies to keep me busy during the day and my Grandad will be looking after my 3 angel babies too he adored kids.

Take care and God Bless you and all your family at this time

Michelle XxX

Michelle Hutchison (Passer-By Returning a Tribute) January 22, 2008

thank you so much

hi melanie thank you for your message it was lovely to hear from someone who understands yes my whole world collapsed last year too when i lost nan and xmas this year was not the same without her but we are in the new year now and altho life will never be the same without them melanie we will try and carry on as they would have wanted us too so i wish u and your family all the very best and we shall both always think of the nans we loved so much whom we will never forget god bless you thank you again melanie love always nikki xxxxxx

Nikki (someone who cares and understands) January 21, 2008

such a brave lady

bless you all bet your nan and my nan having a party thanks for poem mel it made me cry !!! am so sorry for your loss but be strong ..... your nan was certainly that xxx

Sue (Friend) January 20, 2008

Your Friendship is special
Like the flowers that bloom
Or when a butterfly emerges
From within it's cocoon

You remind of that butterfly
Loving and free
Bright and colourful
For the world to see

We all share sunshine and rainbows
Sometimes, the rain and the snow
We'll stand together through it
While the cold winds blow

When the time is right
We won't stop to ask 'Why?'
Our Friendship will take flight
On the wings of a Butterfly

Granny Amp Granda January 19, 2008

thank u 4 ur kind words its so hard loseing someone so close to you. i know how u feel god bless the angels above they r in gods safe hands now x x

Kerry (passer by) January 19, 2008

Nan, I think about you every day. Some days it hits me harder than others, and I think this is one of them. I've been sitting here having a good old cry, and just getting myself upset. Why? Thats what I keep asking. Why did it have to happen the way it did, its just not fair. It's John's birthday tomorrow, and I know you'll be there with dad when he goes to see him, sitting by his side and asking John to speak! Wish you were here, I do miss you so. xxxxxxxxxxxx

Mel Xxxxx (Granddaughter) January 18, 2008

A special smile, a special face;
And in our hearts a special place;
No words we speak can ever say;
How much we miss you everyday.
To hear your voice and see you smile;
To sit and talk to you awhile;
To be together in the same old way;
Would be our dearest wish today.

My love to you Melanie xxxxx

Violet Paul Muirheads Mum (Friend) January 17, 2008
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